On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, Adrian Ettlinger wrote:
> Shlomi says:
>
> "My use of Freecell Solver is a little different. I use it to make sure the
> deal I am playing is solvable, regardless of whether the current position
> is. Naturally, this is more of an issue with Simple Simon where about %20 of
> the deals are not solvable (at least according to the heuristic used by
> Freecell Solver), than with Freecell where almost all initial deals are."
>
> We have found that among our users of FcPro, the most active use of a
> Solver is to check while playing whether an intermediate position has been
> reached that is winnable or impossible. As to the distinction vis-a-vis
> Simple Simon, the "about 20%" non-solvable deals would also apply to
> Freecell when played with only two instead of four freecells. However, as
> to wheither this is an "issue", another way of putting it is to say that the
> testing of any solver design can be more expeditiously done with a game
> where there is a much higher percentage of unsolvable deals than with
> four-freecell Freecell deals. This is why the testing of a Freecell solver
> with four-freecell intermediate positions is more revealing than with
> original deals. Intermedate positions are much more likely to be
> unwinnable.
>
> Of course, users of FcPro also use the solver to test original deals,
> especially for playing with fewer than four freecells. And no doubt there
> are some who regard the use of the solver for intermediate positions as
> "cheating", as perhaps does Shlomi.
>
I don't regard it as cheating. However, I do that because:
1. The only way (for the time being) I can use Freecell Solver on an
intermediate position is by inputting it myself.
2. I know I can always restart or undo a few moves to solve the game.
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
> As to further progress with the FcPro integration, I was out of town
> much of that past few weeks and unable to work on it. I'm back at it now,
> and in separate discussion with Shlomi about one remaining issue.
>
> Best regards, ---------------Adrian
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